We currently have a 2010 F-150 with 150k miles and a 2014 Ford Explorer with 105k miles. Unfortunately, the Explorer needs a PTU replacement, which we’ve been quoted at $4,000.
We’ve been thinking about upgrading to a Ford Expedition Max since we have 4 boys and need the extra space, but I’m concerned about reliability—this would be my wife’s primary vehicle. We’re looking at models from 2019–2021.
Are there any consistent issues with these years that we should know about? I’ve heard Toyota is the safer option, but my wife loves the Expedition. Would love to hear your thoughts!
I’ve got a 2017 Expedition EL and it’s been great. We have three kids and dogs, so we need the space. Bought it at 61k miles and now it’s just under 100k. The only things I’ve done are regular maintenance and towing has worn out the shocks prematurely, so I’m replacing those soon.
I’ve heard mixed reviews about the 2018+ models, especially regarding the 10-speed transmission, but no personal experience there.
@Cameron
I have a 2018 Lincoln Navigator with the 10-speed transmission, and mine needed a rebuild at 70k miles. Took 5-7 weeks for the repair, and the loaner car took 6 months to get. Thankfully, it was covered under warranty.
Watch out for the 10-speed transmission (10R60/10R80). It’s used in many newer Ford vehicles and has had problems from the start. Our 2020 Limited with 50k miles needed a transmission overhaul for rough 7-8 gear shifts. It’s been six weeks, and we’re still waiting on parts. Multiple TSBs address these issues, but there’s no recall, so repairs after the powertrain warranty can get expensive.
That said, the Expedition offers way more space than the Toyota Sequoia, especially in the third row. We’ve taken long road trips, and having a third row that fits adults comfortably is a big plus. The new Sequoia’s hybrid-only setup and solid rear axle reduce its interior space and raise the floor deck, making the third row less practical for adults. We test-drove an older Sequoia, and it had better cargo space due to independent rear suspension.
Thanks for the insights! The third-row space is crucial since our boys are 10 to 15 years old, so they’re almost adult-sized—and their friends are too.
We have a 2020 Limited, and our transmission failed around 70k miles—it needed a full replacement. Both front wheel bearings and the ABS sensor also went out at 50k miles, and they were a pain to replace. Lately, the steering wheel shakes when braking at high speeds, so I’ll have to look into that soon. In my opinion, it’s not very reliable after 50k miles.