Kelly said:
@Oakley
I wouldn’t call GM reliable. Both my family members who bought new Yukons had to return them because of major mechanical and electrical problems. Modern GM vehicles are problematic.
I could say the same about Ford. Personally, I’d take a V8 over a turbo V6 any day. GM vehicles are easier to work on, too.
@Oakley
There is a replacement for displacement—it’s called forced induction. That’s why turbos exist.
Kelly said:
@Oakley
There is a replacement for displacement—it’s called forced induction. That’s why turbos exist.
Exactly! Turbochargers are essential in heavy-duty applications, especially in areas with higher elevations. There’s no substitute for forced induction in those conditions.
@Keller
You replied to the wrong person, but yeah, we’re on the same page. The whole ‘no replacement for displacement’ thing is outdated.
Kelly said:
@Oakley
There is a replacement for displacement—it’s called forced induction. That’s why turbos exist.
Whatever, man. I’m not getting into why I think bigger naturally aspirated engines are better than smaller forced-induction ones, especially for vehicles over 5k lbs. Enjoy your fancy Ford.
@Oakley
Good call, because I’m not interested in reading something that’s objectively wrong.
Kelly said:
@Oakley
Good call, because I’m not interested in reading something that’s objectively wrong.
Do your research. I’ve been a mechanic for years—you’re the one who’s wrong.
Kelly said:
@Oakley
I wouldn’t call GM reliable. Both my family members who bought new Yukons had to return them because of major mechanical and electrical problems. Modern GM vehicles are problematic.
My Tahoe’s nearing 200k miles without a single issue.
@Tatum
I’m talking about the newer GM models, post-2020. That’s where the issues are.
We bought a 2019 Limited 4x4 in August with 60k miles. Within a month, the transmission started slipping, and a few weeks later, it failed completely. Thankfully, it was still under warranty, and we just got it back with a new transmission. So far, so good, but definitely watch out for transmission issues.
DON’T DO IT! My 2018 has been nothing but trouble. Biggest regret ever.
I just traded in my 2019 with 72k miles. The dealer mentioned that trade-in value drops significantly after 80k miles, so keep that in mind. Ended up getting a 2024 Limited with a second-row bench seat!
I have a 2019, and the transmission went out at 80k. Thank goodness we had an extended warranty. The engine and turbos have been fine, but other things like the wheel bearing are starting to fail. I’d pass on it unless you get a good warranty.
Cam phasers and the CDF drum are the big issues on these. We had both fixed under warranty on our 2018. The revised parts didn’t come until 2020 for the phasers and 2022 for the CDF, so anything before that is a risk.
We bought a certified 2021 pre-owned with the gold warranty from Ford. After 3 weeks, the transmission started acting up, and Ford had it for over two months. They replaced the transmission, and we had a rental the whole time, all covered under warranty. It’s been smooth since, but these things are a headache without warranty coverage.
15,000 miles a year is still quite a bit! But jokes aside, I’ve heard these start breaking down around that mileage, and you’ll be spending a lot of time at the dealership. The transmissions are known to be bad. Consumer Reports says these aren’t reliable, and you’d be better off with a 2020 or newer.
@Tatum
I’ve got a 2020 and still have transmission issues.
Blair said:
@Tatum
I’ve got a 2020 and still have transmission issues.
Yikes, that’s rough. Sorry to hear that. We had to return my wife’s Ford Fusion because it was a lemon. That experience made me lose trust in Ford.